Comments on: What Are The Odds?

By: TravelPro

TravelPro — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:07:55 +0000

Thank you.

By: spectator

spectator — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:27:26 +0000

This will be my last response on this topic.

Doug – None of us will ever experience everything life offers, it is impossible as it is endless.

Each response from you has been demeaning & condescending. I never spoke badly of the path you have chosen and I truly find your responses odd to say the least fore you never focused back on the topic you had written. Very odd!

I wish you success and happiness in whatever you do.

ps – It should be a good game tomorrow, weather advantage – Steelers!

By: TravelPro

TravelPro — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:04:34 +0000

It sounds as if you have experienced everything there is in life.

Congratulations.

By: spectator

spectator — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:35:04 +0000

Your comment: There is a lack of attention because your views and perception on how this world operates no longer holds value for me.

This is where you are wrong; I have achieved critical mass, something you are still trying to grasp. The only limits and boundaries placed on me are by my choosing and my own limitations. I have stepped out of the box years ago.

Your comment: I was taught from a very early age to believe what you are currently promoting. After what I have experienced the last several years, there has been an awakening that has taught me that the world as you currently see it; is nothing more than an illusion.

You have not awakened if the fruit of your labor are benefiting another more then it does you. Believe in yourself and the golden ring is within grasp.

By: TravelPro

TravelPro — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:26:53 +0000

There is a lack of attention because your views and perception on how this world operates no longer holds value for me.

I was taught from a very early age to believe what you are currently promoting. After what I have experienced the last several years, there has been an awakening that has taught me that the world as you currently see it; is nothing more than an illusion.

If you want me to suddenly toss out my experience and adapt my thinking and belief system for yours, I’m sorry, but I’ve been there, done that, and even have the t-shirt. Life is much more harmonious in it’s current form.

Please understand however, that if YOUR HAPPY with limits, chances, and odds, you’re welcome to continue, as it makes little difference in controlling or factoring into my life.

Thanks for sharing.

By: spectator

spectator — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:33:16 +0000

For some reason, there is a lack of attention here and again you are going off topic. Your topic was achieving individual success; I am not criticizing your chosen method in any given industry. I am however somewhat confused on your comparisons many times since I have stumbled onto this blog.
For the record, I also do not consider myself a critic of your profession, more of a realist.
Since you seem to relate well to football, this Sunday the Steelers play San Diego, being an old Steelers fan myself, I hope they do well both Steelers and the Eagles.
When the Steelers step onto the field Sunday no matter what they do to prepare they only have a 50% chance of success, they can never increase those odds unless the other team does not walk on the field. On an individual level, a player could have the best game of their life and still come up short if the team does not play there best, isn’t that so? Individual odds of success are dependent on 53 other teammates. Most important your day actually rests on the coaches shoulders and how they prepared for the game.
Moving onto the profession of Network Marketing, one success is not individual at all is it. In order for one to be successful in this endeavor, ones success requires a multitude of high performers in order for the “individual” to reach any level of success. This is why others in this profession attack those who have under-performed they are called losers because they pull each individual down with them. Let me repeat here, I’m not criticizing the profession, just pointing out this profession is not based on individual achievement alone as is masterfully pointed out in various forums to draw individuals into the program.
When it come right down to the details there is not much different between an Employer/Employee relationship and a Network-Marketing/Individual set-up. Neither individual actually controls their destiny. In Netwark-Marketing the upper management of the program ultimately controls each individual direction. This is no different then upper management with a corporation.
If one has the will, in order for one to actually control there destiny, they need to stop cuddling a mother’s breast and actually step-out and achieve success individually. That is the only time the individual controls there level of success and can increase there odds to financial freedom.

By: TravelPro

TravelPro — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:35:37 +0000

You are welcome to believe what ever make you feel comfortable. But thank you for cementing my point about critics and odds.

PS – Maybe you should start your own blog to promote your views? I can assure you, there is someone out there that will listen.

By: spectator

spectator — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:43:16 +0000

Sorry, made a type – the following is the corrected placement.

Your comment: You have said “I’m successful in this industry” what does that really mean to anyone besides you. Some poor homeless sole claims success each day they receive a hot meal.

By: spectator

spectator — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:16:09 +0000

Please do not be condescending with your remarks I am being nothing but professional with you in this discussion.

In addition, let us not take the discussion off topic. Focus on the topic you blogged about “success/achievements” and not the madness of comparing the MLM model and traditional business. As I said previously, I do not really care about the MLM model. Personally, I do not consider the model a threat to my companies in any shape.

Your comment:

I have not denied your comments that hard work pays off, I agree with that fully. What I have said is none of those folks you talk about in the original writing walked onto a field with no advance training or experiences. Each one had trained and played previously. That is where we differ. Persistence does pay off many times, as is the case for James Harrison. His success was not without hard work, education and training however.

I agree with you 100%, anything is possible; someone will win America’s Game even though the odds are 1:195,249,054.00. Last evening 813,663 players won 8.3 million in prizes, averaging out the prize money per winner is approx. $10.20, but some indeed won more then others. The thing is their where many more losers then winners.

You have said “I’m successful in this industry” what does that really mean to anyone besides you. Some poor homeless sole claims success each day they receive a hot meal.

When we started our first business over twenty years ago an old wise fellow said to me, whatever you do, do not buy yourself a job. If your business after three years is doing nothing but earning you a meager salary, get out. The liability vs. return is to great.

By: TravelPro

TravelPro — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:29:35 +0000

As you live in the same city as Lisa, I put two and two together.

Look, if you’d like to argue about this with your own fears and illusion about Network Marketing be my guest.

The message that appears to escape you, is that no matter who you are, no matter what you do, and no matter what your dreams and aspirations are, you need to have the proper mindset and dedication to accomplish it.

Given enough time, and being the right person at the right time you can do anything.

And yes, that includes, but is certainly not limited to Network Marketing. (Although, that appears to be somewhat of an issue for you.) Part of the reason I’m successful in this industry is that my mind works more like a “James Harrison” than it does some “spectator” who knows it all.

But thanks for sharing.